Cpt Branko
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Posted - 2008.09.08 12:31:00 -
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 Originally by: Yon Krum
Heh. I addressed just this issue of the "missing" tier2 EW battleships in another thread (too lazy to link it).
We don't want/need EW BS. The only ones who have one are Caldari - and it's a fine ship really (and well balanced, really). We certainly don't want/need a BS with target painting bonuses or something.
I don't even think we need more BS, personally, but OK.
Originally by: Yon Krum
Minmatar: Sniper ship-- TP effect and range bonus, large projectile falloff bonus and missile speed bonus. Give options for turrets or launchers, but not really both.
Snipers generally want to have uniform guns. Having both missiles and guns on a sniper is fail. Having a falloff bonus in a sniper is twice the amount of fail - falloff bonuses are only useful on ACs, and fighting at range with ACs is very inferior.
Originally by: Yon Krum
TP, by the way, improves both damage and tracking,
No. It improves tracking. Tracking can (but doesn't always) boost damage. TP bonus on a BS is fail. Disagree? OK.
According to your logic of how TP is good, can we have a web range bonus? I'd hate to overboost our ships with overpowered TPs, when we can live with the inferior webrange bonus, you know. 
Originally by: Yon Krum
and range bonus for large proj is actually a damage bonus when you use "better" ammo....
Range bonus for X gun is a damage bonus when you can use "better" ammo. Falloff bonus just means you suck less with ammo X. Seriously now, unless you're in hugging range you're best off firing barrage. See how falloff works to figure out why. So no better ammos, just barrage. Sure, you do better DPS if you've got a falloff bonus and you're firing Barrage, but, erm, you're always worse then a ship which actually has optimal.
Originally by: Yon Krum
Plus, torps need missile speed. Probably an armor-tanker.
6 low armour tanker is sortof bad. If you do spend all your bonuses on falloff + missile speed and TP, you are aware that you create a ship which has virtually no DPS at all. While sucking as a sniper in a horrible way.
You're basically saying "let's give Minmatar a totally worthless ship".
Originally by: Yon Krum
Amarr: Large drone ship. Scaled-up Abritrator, with 6/6/6 slots and 4/4 turret/launcher. Otherwise, very straightforward. Unfortunately, black is for tech 2....
6 lows on a armour tanker is just bad (of course, it'd open the funny shield tank with 6 mids option). Else it's a lovely idea. Then again, with a drone bonus and good dronebay, and full flight of heavies, it could be interesting.
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